Re: Pinhole Digest #860 - 03/05/02

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From: Steve Miller (nanodog2@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed Mar 06 2002 - 20:31:58 PST


From: "Steve Miller" <nanodog2@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Pinhole Digest #860 - 03/05/02
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 20:31:58 -0800
Message-ID: <F84B0iiOrkktZfTdQZN00008d7b@hotmail.com>


>From: "Pinhole Listserv" <pinhole@exploratorium.edu>
>To: "Pinhole Listserv" <pinhole@exploratorium.edu>
>Subject: Pinhole Digest #860 - 03/05/02
>Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 00:20:01 -0700
>
>Pinhole Digest #860 - Tuesday, March 5, 2002
>
> white boards
> by "Geoff Ruth" <gruth@leadershiphigh.org>
> RE: pinhole white boards
> by "Black, Heidi" <BlackH@exchange.esuhsd.org>
> Re: pinhole white boards
> by <NFetter@aol.com>
>
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>Subject: white boards
>From: "Geoff Ruth" <gruth@leadershiphigh.org>
>Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:16:15 -0800
>
>I have a general teaching question about whiteboards, that I will
>attempt to also turn into a scientific question.
>
>In our physics classroom, there is a whiteboard that is almost
>impossible to erase -- you have to really scrub it, and then clean it
>with some sort of solvent to get the ink to come off. My first
>question is whether it's possible to recondition a white board by
>refinishing it with some sort of polish. I'm not sure what you'd use
>to do this.
>
>So here's the science part: How does a whiteboard work? I think it's
>related to the relative polarity of the board and markers. Since
>isopropanol or water will remove the marker, my guess is that the
>board has a nonpolar finish on it, and the markers' ink is polar. Is
>this first guess accurate?
>
>Thanks!
>Geoff
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>Subject: RE: pinhole white boards
>From: "Black, Heidi" <BlackH@exchange.esuhsd.org>
>Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:52:46 -0800
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>We have found that changing marker brands sometimes helps . I used to keep
>black in the type that wouldn't erase and use it for data tables that I
>could erase class info from between periods.....
>Looking Forward, Heidi
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>In our physics classroom, there is a whiteboard that is almost
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>Subject: Re: pinhole white boards
>From: <NFetter@aol.com>
>Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 00:19:46 EST
>
>Hi Geoff,
>We started using white boards this year in our new school building. They
>start off as white, then become gray boards, and finally become black
>boards,
>but you can't use chalk on them. You are right; a wet rag with lots of
>elbow
>grease will remove the marker writing if you do it right away. I have found
>that if you wait until the next day, it is a lot harder to remove the crud
>even with a wet rag. The ink obviously dissolves in water,so it must be
>polar. The board surface is polarizable - a rubbed rubber balloon will
>stick
>to it. So the longer the ink stays on the board, the harder it is to get
>off.
>Is this explanation any help?
>Neil Fetter
>
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Windex works really good on my beat-up white boards.
                   Steven Miller

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